Accident caught on dashcam

". ." (xllx) 07/26/2018 at 13:38 • Filed to: None

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You can commence arguing over who was more of a spanner now.

Video’s not mine.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > . . 07/26/2018 at 13:44

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I don’t think there is any argument here, moto rider is clearly at fault.

Future next gen S2000 owner > . . 07/26/2018 at 13:46

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Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Spanfeller is a twat > . . 07/26/2018 at 13:47

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Filtering at any speed above 60km/h is stupidly  dangerous. But the driver could’ve been more cautious.

bob and john > . . 07/26/2018 at 13:49

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euro country where splitting is allowed? cars fault.

ride WAS being a collosal dbag though 

ttyymmnn > Spanfeller is a twat 07/26/2018 at 13:51

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I would wager that when the car driver checked his mirror that the moto was so far back he never saw him. Or if he did, he never expected such high closing speeds. I’m putting that one squarely on the moto.

fintail > . . 07/26/2018 at 13:52

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Is filtering legal at that speed? If not, the car wins twice. At worst, car gets a ticket, bike gets lots of ras h.

His Stigness > Spanfeller is a twat 07/26/2018 at 13:52

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Even if you look in your mirrors and over your shoulder you never see those guys. Being in California where lane splitting has never been outlawed, I see this all of the time. It's scary. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Spanfeller is a twat 07/26/2018 at 13:55

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How can you be more cautious when a moto is closing on you lets say 60 km/hr faster than you are going? You can do mirror- signal-head check and still not see them coming up at that speed.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > His Stigness 07/26/2018 at 13:56

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The moto riders in CA terrify me when they start lane splitting at >50 mph. A car is going to win every time in a motorcycle vs car collision.

Spanfeller is a twat > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/26/2018 at 13:57

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The motorcyclist wasn’t going going that much faster. I think the driver got  got confused by the motorcycle ahead, once it passed, they thought the way was clear. 

I guess loudpipes don’t save lives.

Spanfeller is a twat > His Stigness 07/26/2018 at 13:58

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Where I live it’s “legal” and they do that shit. I just learned to be extremely cautious when changing lane. But I’m not blaming the driver. It’s absolutely the rider’s fault. 

Spanfeller is a twat > ttyymmnn 07/26/2018 at 13:59

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Yes, it’s the cyclist' fault. I think he was confused by the bike that already passed. 

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > . . 07/26/2018 at 14:04

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Definitely the motorcyclist. He deserved that one for acting like a spanner.

itranthelasttimeiparkedit > bob and john 07/26/2018 at 14:35

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really? There has to be a reasonable speed differential for splitting, and that guy was going waaaay faster than any of the cars

His Stigness > Spanfeller is a twat 07/26/2018 at 14:40

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Technically speaking, at least here in California, the way it works is that if the motor is in your lane, and there is contact, it’s the motor fault because they’re in your lane. But if you hit them and they’re in the other lane then technically, it’s your fault. But, I think you can argue if the motor is violating the new lane splitting laws then it’s their fault, no matter which lane they’re in. Motors aren’t allowed to split lanes over 45mph, and they can’t go more than 15 mph faster than the flow of traffic.

His Stigness > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/26/2018 at 14:41

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I know. And commuters are the worst. They act like they own the freeway, and they’re incredibly reckless. They constantly scare the shit out of me.

Urambo Tauro > . . 07/26/2018 at 14:43

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Tough one. I was ready to blame both, but now I’m starting to think that maybe that wasn’t an intentional sideswipe after all. I see the Audi driver signaling to merge, shortly before returning to the right lane immediately after he was done passing the slow traffic- like any decent human being would. So h e might not have been going out of his way to hurt the guy at all. He probably didn’t even see him coming, at that speed.

ttyymmnn > fintail 07/26/2018 at 15:05

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At what point is there a difference between “filtering” and “lane splitting? ” As I understand it, and I’m a rider, is that filtering is when the smaller bikes, which are faster off the line, filter to the front at a stop light. Lane splitting is when you go between cars at speed. I have no problem with filtering, but I think lane splitting is dangerous and shouldn’t be allowed.

fintail > ttyymmnn 07/26/2018 at 15:11

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I think you are right on the terms, but they end up being used interchangeably.

I have no problem with either, given the right speed differential, and driver training.  In other words, it would be suicide with the driver talent pool in my area, and I couldn’t support splitting here.

pip bip - choose Corrour > . . 07/27/2018 at 07:47

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motorcyclist, the car was indicating before he started to overtake.